[jeni]

:*( Here we go again one of my rescues the black velvet female who was undergoing treatment for a womb infection, and we were finally winning that battle. 12.00pm yesterday saw her at the bottom of her cage crawling on her belly so picked her up noticed a prolapsed bowel only 2mm out rushed straight to vets (only 5min) by time got there now out 10-15mm vet put her straight under put it back. phone call later out again put back again that happened twice more and in the night vet had to put it back and put a purse string stitch in to hold it more. But 9am this morning phones to say out again :*( . He cant find anything about this in any of his books and is running out of ideas. Anyone got any ideas or suggestions? After surgery this morning he will open her up and try stitching it from the inside and check for blockages and growths. But after that if it comes out wants to put her down, I want to try to avoid this of course. Her poos have been fine she was a little quiet the last couple of days but put that down to the womb problems. Anyone had problems like this before? He going to do the surgery about lunch time.
thanks jenny

[GinaNLee]

Oh Jenni how terrible for you. I hope someone comes along with some advice soon, :grouphug:
Just wanted to wish you and your little one all the very best, hugs and snuggles from here. :grouphug:

[jill murfin]

:unsure: i am sorry Jeni - - had you thought of sending emails via CU to Debbie and our other experts to ask for their help? They may just get them before reading this topic? Just an idea and you may get some quicker responses also if you look at Aileen241's posts somewhere she has given details about her own vet who is i think quite a chinny expert and is willing to talk to other vets with advice - - is he Mr Laurie in Cumbernauld :headscratch: i may be wrong but it may be worth a look thro the vets section on here to see if you can get any numbers to give to your own vet to seek further advice or opinions - - - -just a couple of ideas which i presume you may already have thought about? - - - everything is crossed that all will be well for your little one today :grouphug: :kiss: :goodluck:

[Debbie]

Not come across this personally.

Niki Graves (she is a member on here - but does not post much sadly) is pretty experienced in dealing with prolapsed bowels in chinchillas.

The colon mucosa needs to be replaced and held in-situ (usually by sutures) - as your vet has done.

If it is swollen it can be shrunk by soaking it with a strong sugar solution - before attempting replacement.

However, if the chinchilla is straining to pass droppings - then the risk of re-prolapse increases - as you have found!!

Is/was she constipated before the prolapse occured?? (i.e. was she passing small droppings)

Did she have diarrhoea before the prolapse occured??


It is important to try to correct other digestive problems - to enable the suture to hold.

I am sorry I cant offer any other advice - but maybe a more experienced member can!!

Best wishes. :grouphug: :grouphug:

[Donna]

:grouphug: oh no Jeni not again Your worse than me with luck .
You have my number good luck mate :grouphug:

[jeni]

thanks everyone
cannt find the posts from Aileen241 but will keep looking.

No her droppings were totally normal. since she been at the vets the droppings are normal too according to the vet??

cannt belive this keeps happening in 15 years of keeping chins my own have been to the vet a handful of times, The rescues i got from that woman have been back and forward ever since they came to me, poor little things!
thanks jenny

p.s her friend a little standard female is now crying all the time and throwing herself at the door to get out let her out for a run but seems to be looking for her. and just moaning and crying at lot thought she would have calmed by now. started not long after i took her out yesterday?

This post has been edited by jeni: 26 August 2004 - 09:23 AM

[Lisa]

I know Sarah (Fluffy_Bunny) has recently dealt with a chin with a prolapse she might be able to help a little although I would have thought Debbie's advice would cover everything it usually does! :rwinky: :D

[one_winged_angel]

:*( How strressful this whole thing must be for you. I'm really of no help knowledge wise but i do wish you and your chin the best of luck and hope that the vet can return her to good health soon :grouphug: :grouphug:

[Debbie]

Lisa, on Aug 26 2004, 10:59 AM, said:

I know Sarah (Fluffy_Bunny) has recently dealt with a chin with a prolapse she might be able to help a little although I would have thought Debbie's advice would cover everything it usually does!  :rwinky:  :D

:rolleyes: :mhihi:

Sorry - but I simply have not had to deal with this with any of my chins (or when I used to rescue chins - years ago) - so I honestly cannot comment from personal experience on anything other than the "basics" (which I am glad about, in a way).

I would be giving duff advice if I tried to blag it!! :blink:

[fepirillo]

:-[ poor little chinnie :-[
I just wanted to send a huge hug for her :grouphug: :grouphug: hope everything will be ok :kiss: :grouphug:

[shelley]

I have PM'd you, though to be honest I'm no help! With my little man, after having it all popped back in a few times it has *touch wood* stayed where it should be.

My vet refused to put a stitch in as he doesn't believe they work, but I think you have to try anything once... Just to see.

Good luck :grouphug:

[paulag]

I have no experience of this either. When Fluffy_Bunny had the problem I dug out my copy of V.G.C Ricardson's Diseases of Small Domestic Rodents which has this to say about Rectal Prolapse.

Clinical Signs: This may follow constipation or diarrhoea becaues both cause increased abdominal straining. Initially the rectal mucosa may evert as the individual strains, and this may progress to a larger prolapse of the rectal mucosa of the anus. The mucosa will be red and congested imeediately after the prolapse occurs, becomeing purple and necrotic with time.

Treatment: This should be effective if instigated early. The mucosa should be cleaned with an antiseptic solution, and it can be encouraged to shrink with a strong sugar solution applied to it. The prolapse can be returned by gentle manipulation with a thermometer. It may be useful to tighten the anal ring with a purse-string sutre. Antibiotics should be given post-operatively, and the chinchilla can be fed small amounts of pellets. Fibrous foods such as hay can be reintroduced after a few days. Glucose water or sugar in water is recommended for the first few days.

[GinaNLee]

how is the little one now? :unsure: :grouphug:

[jeni]

right she is now home but the vet not too hopeful :*( she had another purse string stitch put in as the other didnt hold. I've got to give her an antibiotic jab in the morning and take her back to see him tomorrow. to check if it stays in that long (fingers crossed) .she is very quite and still doing a bit of crawling on her belly not all the time. will put the glucose in her water. should i just be giving her pellets dont want her to become constipated should i give a few rasins? She hasnt been to poo since i've had her home a couple of hours now??
thanks
jenny and velvet

[willowisp]

Oh, you poor thing Jeni :grouphug: This must be heartbreaking for you, as im sure it is whenever anyones chin suffers this. :-[

Sending lots of luck and :grouphug: your way, and pray shell be okay :kiss: